Session Start: Fri Feb 16 18:46:45 2001

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*** Topic is 'I Can't Believe They Make Me Work For My Money Now!'

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<Matar> grump

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<Amber> Must be the night to eat chicken...son is off getting me some right now! :)

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<Kat> hello

<Amber> hi

<Kat> brb

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<Kat> hi

<Diana> hihi

<Amber> hi

<Diana> just finished putting my character into the final version character sheet :P

<Diana> still havent written up all the spells tho :(

<Amber> the more you get the more of a hassle is it. :)

<Diana> no kidding. especially for clerics, who get all the spells :)

<Amber> <G>

<Amber> Hey, did you take any magic making feats?  All I have is potion making for the moment.

<Amber> magic making items I mean.

<Diana> I have craft wondrous item

<Amber> Oh goodie! <G>

<Diana> heh

<Amber> I was thinking of converting TofM spell 'Lighten Load' to 3e and using it in a magic item so AMber could carry heavier armor or someting.

<Diana> not a bad idea

<Amber> Excuse me while I eat some chicken my son just brought me...finger licking good!

<Saif> Evening, everybody

<Kat> evening

<Amber> wiping fingers on towel...hi

<Saif> greasy keyboards - one of my pet peeves

<Amber> >G>

<Saif> BTW, from my view point I only have a few things outstanding with you guys - namely fixing Amber's sheet (equipment weights), reviewing Kat's sheet, and finally getting around to Amber's and Diana's 3e spell conversions.  Is there anything else out there?

<Saif> Oh, and Castinar's 3e Azmyth bat write up

<Saif> and Thengal's Jville actions

<Amber> Amber's potions she makes and stuff she bought/got in Suzail

<Saif> (reviewing e-mails in the to-do foler)

<Kat> Kat's actions during the break

<Diana> yah, just my spells for me.

<Amber> k

<Saif> Amber - check, I've got that one in there too

<Amber> brb afk fixing hubands dindin

<Saif> Paul - I remember you mentioning moving around, but I don't have an e-mail about it.  I think I answered the question you asked (something about the quickest way to the family farm?).  Let me know what you end up doing.

<Kat> Kat will wait for the trip with magic travel

<Kat> She will head home and visit for a little bit

<Saif> Again, my apologies for the low posting level last few weeks.  I've come up with four new characters over that time period, a couple of them 6th level (I really wanted to get in non-1st level 3-e games)

<Kat> Then head back to Jurgenville

<Kat> Talk with people in Jurgenville

<Kat> and get ready to return to the underdark

<Saif> One of the things on the agenda tonight will be to decide how much time the party stays in Jurgenville once everybody is reunited.

<Saif> That will give several people a better idea about what they can get done as far as spell research and magical item creation.

<Saif> We'll wait a while for Cast, Kim, and a few others to show up, then we'll make some decisions.

<Amber> back

* Matar votes for 4 years

<Saif> I'm sure Thengal is not going to be here.  Ted's probably flying back-to-backs right now.

<Saif> No, Matar, there isn't a "Bachelors of Military Studies" program up in Neworion <g>

<Amber> sounds cozy, who is she? <g>

<Amber> <excuse my military knowledge fail save roll.>

<Saif> she?

<Amber> you did say he was doing something back to back and I kinda...

<Saif> Ah, no.  Ted is an Arabic linguist with the Air Force - same job I used to have.  If you've watched the news today you can realize why he would be very, very busy today.

<Saif> Knowing the mission and his specific job I can appreciate even more that he's very busy

<Amber> nope, not seen news since this morning

<Kat> bombs away

<Diana> odd that the sandbox is in the news again tho

<Diana> I guess cause its Dubya in command now :P

<Kat> Clinton did it too

* Saif nods

<Kat> so that's not it

<Diana> I know, which is why its odd that its in the news. this has been going on for 10 years or so

<Saif> I think it was a little bit of a statement, along with some defensive measures

<Kat> Saif, have you heard from Kim this week or last week at all?

<Saif> I was going to ask the same thing of you, but then I remember she forward a message from another player in the Jville game earlier this week...

<Saif> Three days ago.  So she's listening, just not talking.

<Kat> I thought she was going to be in NC today.

<Kat> Maybe she is leaving tomorrow or tonight, which is why she isnt here.

<Saif> Hadn't heard - or if she told me more than a week ago I've forgotten

<Kat> She and Jon might be house hunting

<Saif> I think she's still mad at me about the opera <g>

<Kat> I think so too

<Kat> What's wrong with a little play?

<Kat> <g>

<Saif> Too bad she didn't come down to see it herself.  I had this whole scene planned where the crowd figured out who she was about half way through the play

<Saif> .

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<Saif> OK, we'll let's at least get your guys' opinion on how long to stay in Jville

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<Saif> Those of you sticking with Matar will be down in Cormyr for about three weeks.  After that you're free to do whatver.

<Saif> What is your preference?

* Amber would like at least a week, unless she left Matar early.

<Matar> 3 months seems about right

<Amber> What season is it now? early spring?

<Saif> Yes

<Saif> The passes are just clear, but it's still quite cold up in Jville

<Kat> 3 months would be interesting.  We could actually spend the summer in the light

<Saif> BTW, Castinar will have some additional information about what your next large obstacle is

<Diana> long enough to research one spell and make one or two magic items.  a month to 6 weeks i think :)

<Saif> Apparently other groups are doing the same thing you are, but none are as close as you are. 

<Diana> or maybe not research the spell, depending.

<Saif> Jasovani told him that the City of the Glass Pool has come up from several different groups working in and around Cormyr.

<Saif> He tells Cast that it is know that the CotGP is a kuo-toa city, but that illithid and derro are know to be there as well.

* Matar needs to get a feel for his new responsibilities and would like to consolidate power before handing it over to his father

<Amber> ick!

<Saif> Matar - understood.  You can stay down in Cormyr the whole time if you want.  The Crown will arrange to have you transported up to Jville when you're ready to go.

<Saif> * hey, there's a good follower for you - a War Wizard

<Matar> heh his only job is to teleport me around

<Saif> well, and keep you save

<Saif> safe even

<Kat> Keep the Count safe?

<Kat> Is that a joke?

<Matar> heh bah!  just someone else for me to protect... whiney mages!

<Saif> nope

<Matar> *sigh* just not the same disparaging Nikki when judd's not here

<Saif> BTW, one other scene I've got knocking around in the back of my head is what happens when Matar gets to Greenleave and the old Count Parlfray (the ghost paladin) talks to him.  Matar would have to tell him of the disgrace of his family (Parlfrays) and that they have lost Thornwood.  But the paladin would

<Saif> be rather proud of Matar. 

<Kat> The War Wizard is going to have to convince Count Armatage not to adventure any more.

<Saif> there's a good idea - the wizard could be more annoying that Finslayer <g>

<Amber> Now the ghost conversation would be interesting.

<Saif> "But my lord, you know how DANGEROUS those fish-men can be!"

<Amber> oh no! Party fight!

<Amber> lol

<Saif> So I'm getting a 1.5 to 3 month break up in Jurgenville.  Any other comments/thoughts?

<Amber> well, if its that long AMber will do more potions for the group, if they okay it.

* Saif nods

<Saif> Has anybody heard from Cast?  I expected him to be here.

<Kat> I have not

<Saif> Diana - I imagine you won't protest a 3 month stay?

<Saif> I would like to wrap the 3 weeks in Cormyr into that - so 3 months total on the surface.

<Diana> no, wouldnt :)

<Saif> That should give people with craft ideas plenty of time.

<Kat> 3 months sounds like lots of time to do stuff

<Saif> We'll wait another 10 minutes or so to see if anybody else shows up to express an opinon, then the 3 months time-frame will become gospel.

<Saif> it should be

<Saif> I can even keep Castinar busy for that long (I think <g>)

<Matar> heh if not i could keep 'im busy

<Matar> he's a higher order then these other scum

<Saif> what ideas do you have for him - since my ideas for him were indirectly involved with you

<Matar> er i mean i can boss him around more...

<Matar> um that didnt come out right either

<Saif> BTW, if nobody else shows up shortly I'm going to go watch a PPV movie with Jamie.

<Matar> heh

<Saif> Next week we will be heading down into the UD, so please get me your details on what you want to be doing during your three months.

<Kat> PPV?

<Amber> goodie, more time to eat chocolates this evening...

<Saif> Also remember you can start role-playing threads which we can draw out during upcoming combat

<Saif> Pay Per View

<Kat> Does it cost less than going to the video store?

<Saif> About the same - $3

<Matar> well i was thinking while i deal with the people he could survey the wildlife map out dangerous creatures get the lay of the land sorta stuff

<Kat> ok, so we can send you role-playing threads?

<Amber> What about scouting the underdark near thornwood for a quicker route or has he done that already?

<Saif> Hum - I just realized you four are the only ones who have really be doing anything over the past few weeks as well.  I think I'm going to give you all an XP bonus.

<Saif> I was thinking along the lines of Amber - finding a quick way between Greenleaf and TSR

* Amber thanks you, she needs it for potion making...:)

<Saif> Drop down the travel time to a couple days or something.

<Saif> We'll have to see if Galen has any plans.  I'm sure in three months he can find the route and map out Thornwood.

<Matar> oh i figured the war wizard solved that problem

<Saif> brb

<Matar> hehe

<Amber> *don't forget she now has those boots of flying...overland she can go a goodly distance fast. at least for 2 hours.

<Kat> During the dinner, Kat will ask Matar's mother, "When is your son's wedding?"

<Kat> <g>

<Amber> humm..how far could she get going at 90 overland? 90 miles?

<Saif> sorry, Jamie yelled.  I thought something had happened.  (It did - but it was just Brittany turning off her computer <g>)

<Matar> *OOC* out of nowhere kat gets smacked in the back of the head

<Amber> lol

* Kat is laughing too hard to notice

<Saif> lol - yes, Dessy's attitude does change even more once Matar becomes nobility.  She's been slowly growing fond of him for some time now (especially since Red Vale).

<Saif> But now - Countess!  ooooohh

<Kat> It's not just his muscles any more

<Saif> * BTW, I don't know if you knew this, but Dessalynne is based on an old character of mine, an alchemist back when PO first came out.  So she really does have a good skill set - kind of like Fredal, although Nikki has never used him.

<Matar> its my muscles AND my money

<Kat> AND title

* Amber starts planning design for hope chest and what woods to carve it from...

<Saif> Speaking of money you're not going to be rolling in the gold.  The area is still "backwater" and you'll be expected to sink most of your tax revenues back into the infrastructure for the County.  Still, a Count does have an image to uphold, and Greenleaf (if that is where you decide to stay) will become quite the nice place.

<Kat> I can see it now, the town people well say, "That young Count, all he does is adventure."

<Saif> Matar - have you decided on that?  Do you set up shop in Milborne, Greenleaf, or somewhere else?

<Matar> that was my next question - more to the group prolly - what kinda gold do we have available personally for item creation and what not

<Saif> lots

<Matar> hmm lemme peek at the maps

<Kat> Kat does see this bias nature against the other races.  She notes that Castinar, a male, got some extra titles.  And Matar, a male and human, got lots of land.

<Amber> Are there any kind of temples in Thornwood? if so what faiths?

<Kat> There must be some plot against the women and non-humans of the group. <G>

<Amber> Amber has plans...:)

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<Saif> You have about 150,000 in liquid or semi-liquid assets

<Saif> Hey Judd

<Kat> A War Wizard

<Saif> everybody duck

<Nikki> I kick in the door and enter both guns blazing!

<Kat> She can be assigned to Count Armatage

<Saif> <g>

<Kat> So, Nikki learns how to use the guns

<Saif> Make that more like 120,000.  Thengal wanted to purchase the gems off the party, I think.

<Matar> the area outlined in red is mine?

<Saif> Yes, rough boundries

<Kat> Hey, the party money is not going to the Count's lands.

<Matar> so thurmaster is outside the limits?

<Matar> no not planning on it

<Saif> Basically from the river on the east west to the edge of the Patchwork Hills and Eeelhold.  South to the end of the Thornwood.

<Matar> want to know for an item im trying to get diana to make for me

<Saif> I think I'm going to ammend it to cut off on the north at the edge of the forest rather than going into it

<Kat> Diana and Amber, how much will you need to spend for the magic you want to create?

<Saif> The forest (Hullack?) will remain Crown lands

<Matar> then yeah Greenleaf seems like a nice central seat, if I can talk ye old ghost into not scaring everyone away

<Saif> The ghost is rather nice, for an undead paladin

<Matar> and whats the yellow box on the larger map?

<Amber> right now she has spent 1800gp, if she makes more potions that will go up, chump change. :)

<Saif> Just shows the approximate outlines of the smaller map

<Matar> ah

<Matar> and corymyr is pretty much that whole map?

<Kat> What were you thinking of making, Amber?

<Kat> Saif, are you going to also make up the other Count's and Duke's nearby?  What do they think of the new young Count?

<Amber> planned on making cure mod. and prot. from evil already, don't know for rest yet.

<Amber> six of each

<Diana> Lesser restoration maybe

<Kat> Amber, they don't cost very much to make.

<Saif> You'll still have young ... hum, what was his name...

<Matar> or actual restoration

<Amber> yeah but they do in expts.

<Kat> What about clearing that Rock Dale?  Is that a job for the new young Count?

<Amber> what level is that? I can only do 0-3rd

<Matar> ick think its 4th

<Amber> I think only druids can do higher level potions.

<Saif> can't find the kid's name - Lintern Parlfrey or something like that

<Saif> He'll keep Parlfrey Keep and Thurmaster to the East

<Matar> oh right

<Saif> To the north is mostly the forest, which is under the Crown's control

<Saif> To the west is Hultail, so there will be a couple people there

<Matar> eh? thought the family got stripped of everything along with the traitor

<Saif> The main problem will be to the south, with the Fairdells and a few others that Sigurd knew growing up.

<Kat> So, Armatage didn't get all of the old adventuring lands.  It was split up.

<Saif> No, Carman was stripped of everything.  The Parlfreys were stripped of most of their lands (which were given to you), but since Lintern apparently didn't have an active roll and his father died he is being left with only a narrow strip of lands.

<Saif> Kat -on the Rock Dale, Tharg and Maxim already did that

<Matar> ah

<Amber> lets see, prot from elements (which?), Cure serious, Silence?, remove Paralysis...

<Kat> Does the young Parlfrey have the title of Lord or Count?

<Kat> or none?

<Saif> Yes, he got all of Carman's lands (mostly Milborne, the farmland around the Patchwork Hills, and the mines) and some of the Parlfray's lands (notably the Thornwood).  He was also asked to take over trade negotations/contracts with Inzelrdin and the lizard men

<Saif> Young Parlfrey is a Count, although in name only

<Saif> Basically if he "behaves" himself he might be able to make up for his father's mistakes, and in a generation or two the Parlfreys could become a force in Eastern Cormyr again.  Of course, by then Matar might have swallowed him up <g>

<Kat> Matar, you eat children?

<Saif> It is somewhat ironic that the Parlfrey's only real source of revenue now is Thurmaster, and Thurmaster now withers or thrives according to trade through the Vast Swamp - trade which Matar has been given responsibility for.

<Kat> You're sick.

<Matar> only if they flavored correctly - my war wizard's primary job

<Saif> It's a condition common among those who think they descended from ancient Greek gods

<Kat> Change them into newts?

<Kat> So, three months of surface activities.  No side adventures?

<Saif> Not really - at least, I don't have any planned.  We've only got a week now real-time to wrap the three months up and get you back down into the UD

<Kat> plenty of time

<Kat> <g>

<Amber> ah! I remember it was 6 cmws and 6 delay jpoisons I planned on making.

<Kat> So, Saif, what about those strange magic items the party has?

<Saif> Which ones?

<Kat> old potions - how does one convert healing?

<Kat> CLW at what level?

<Diana> 1st

<Diana> sadly

<Saif> Yes, 1st, so d8+1

<Kat> 1d8+1?

<Saif> yes, caster level 1

<Kat> water breathing?

<Saif> ah...

<Kat> ring of spell storing?

<Saif> probably just like before

<Saif> probably like before

<Kat> sweet water?

<Saif> same

<Kat> 3e ring of spell storing is much more powerful

<Kat> Are you sure you don't want us to us that one? <G>

<Saif> these items probably won't be popping up in the future, but unless there is some game imbalancing problem they'll stay in as their 2e descriptions.  If it becomes necessary we'll get down to the nitty-gritty and convert them over to 3e.  I've done that with a few things, like Matar's Girdle of Lions.

<Kat> Get rid of that sanc and put in MM

<Saif> reading....

<Kat> Any items other people have that they don't know how to convert them?

<Saif> Ah, so the Rof Spell Storing is simply a spell battery now, no more fixed spells

<Saif> hum

<Kat> Like it was in 1st

<Saif> <shrug> We'll do it the 3e way.  That might be one of the main things Mogo and the others use to point out that you guys have "changed" somehow when you were down in Sakar.

<Kat> or, how some people played it at least.

<Saif> So you'll have to keep track of the 10 spell levels in it just like you were a spell caster - and talk party spellcasters into charging it for you.

<Kat> Isn't it nice how it currently has 10 spell levels in it.

<Saif> I'm not too worried about smaller 2e magic items like potions.  the larger things we'll have to take a look at.  For the most part if there is a 3e equivalent we'll go with that.  (No, Nikki, that doesn't mean you get the Rod of Wonder)

<Saif> Serindipity!  <sp?>

<Kat> ?

<Saif> the level limit in the 3e DMG equaling the level of spells currently in the ring

<Kat> Anything odd about the box of storing stuff that is going to give us troubles in 3e?

<Saif> BTW, Diana - are you going to semi-permanently devote several spells to the cat's graces and bull's strength spells for different party members?  They will need to know that to put the higher scores in their "temp" column under Ability Scores

<Diana> yes

<Nikki> pbbbt.  official tsr literature in ink states that the rod is the correct replacement.  im taking create rod and passing out a few dozen just to screw up the game world

<Diana> it will be a standard thing

<Saif> I don't think so - same problem as before as far as taking it through extra dimensional spaces.  There's something somebody can invent - a non-dimensional-exploding extra-dimensional-space

<Saif> I can just see Nikki walking up to a group of 8 year old boys and handing out Rods of Wonder.... then quickly teleporting out.

<Amber> AAAcccckkk!!!

<Nikki> think what fun they could have?

<Kat> until someone losses an eye

<Saif> "I'm sorry momma.  How could I have known Tommy would turn into a pink elephant?  At least he has wings."

<Amber> That could explain how monsters get into cities and towns...

<Saif> Anything else for me?  The baby's crying and Jamie could use some help.

<Kat> How much xp and gp does it take for Nikki to create a Rod of Wonder?

<Saif> lots

<Amber> don't thinkso,

<Diana> oh, whats our updated XP totals btw?

<Diana> I have an old one on my character sheet

<Kat> battle next week?

<Diana> and do you want my final 3rd edition character sheet character?

<Saif> Hum, only 480 XP.  That's not too bad.

<Saif> Probably mostly scouting next week, unless the party wants to stride forward boldly

<Kat> Too bad you can't do scouting in email

<Kat> oh well

<Saif> Diana - your XP total is 34662

<Diana> thanks

<Saif> I think it's going to take at least a week to jump start those who haven't participated much over the past few weeks, and resolve things like details on magic items, spells researched, etc.

<Kat> When planning for the 3 month breaks, how much should we worry about travel?

<Saif> Not to mention getting all the character sheets in <g>

<Saif> Travel where?

<Saif> As far as cutting into that time?

<Kat> Hultail to Jurgenville

<Kat> Harnshire to Jurgenville

<Saif> Haranshire to Jville was ... gotta find the map...

<Kat> Greenleaf to Jurgenville.

<Amber> 4 days

<Amber> 2 days riding

<Saif> Yes, 4 days - figure 5 from Greenleaf to Jville (CAst will be able to cut that in half if he scouts)

<Amber> according to the notes I made from map post.

<Kat> That's on the surface?

<Saif> So about a week from Hultail to Jville.  Or you can just plan on returning home with Matar at the 3 week point and not worry about travel.

<Saif> Yes, on the surface.  Cast's route will be in the UD

<Matar> well i'm likely to spend most of my time in greenleaf

<Matar> tho if i end up with a war wizard nanny i could ask him to make a special trip for those who wish to go

<Saif> <nod> We'll have a break at 3 weeks - if for nothing else then to get all your parents' stuff from TSR (a quick trip, but it could be used to bring most of the party back to TSR)

<Matar> ah so ka

<Kat> Sounds good

<Saif> so ka des, neh?

<Diana> wakarimas.

<Matar> um baka!

<Saif> hey, I know what that means <g> (one of the few words I remember Jamie using)

<Diana> hehe

<Matar> ginsu sumi warisan

<Diana> zakeneyo!

<Amber> ohio

<Diana> konnichiwa

<Diana> konbonwa

<Saif> aiwa sony mitsubish!

<Diana> daredeska?

<Diana> hehe

<Matar> das vy danya?

<Saif> soreiwa nan deska?

<Diana> been studying japanese for a while now.

<Diana> going to japan in 4 months. should be fun

<Saif> Jamie would be jealous.  She lived there for a year and a half.

<Nikki> going home

<Nikki> bye

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<Amber> ah so! sounds like fun!

<Diana> im jelous, i wouldnt mind living there :)

<Saif> I'd love to go back there.  Maybe for our 10th or something.

<Matar> with the zoo you have now?  wait till they're all off to college

<Saif> Well, I'm going to go play parental unit for a while

<Diana> seeya :)

<Kat> see ya Saif

<Amber> bye, have a nice 3 day weekend everyone!

<Diana> night all

<Saif> no - that's the main idea - leave them behind and go have some fun while we're young enough to still enjoy it <g>

<Kat> 3 days?

<Amber> presidents day on monday

<Saif> Later, 9 thanks for coming.  Remind me about the XP bonus for you guys.

<Matar> dead pres day mon

<Saif> night all

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Session Close: Fri Feb 16 20:44:40 2001